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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: A Challenge

Is this http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-06-10.sbd-matrix.miller-ladner.6937.sbeok.shnf not the best opening to any show at any time ever. Seriously this Bertha-Jack Straw- Phil outburst, is that strong.
Just mentioning it because there seems to be so much era posturing here and so few moderates who like the good stuff from all the era's.
Really, just looking to find some new blazing openers but it sometimes seems you have to be a semi-troll to get anyone to respond, so making this as controversial as I can in search of that good stuff.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:55am
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always leery of the 'best' label, but this Jack Straw rips, and so does the show:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1979-09-02.sbd.miller.93011.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:05pm
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Psst - I like the good stuff from all the eras ... I just think there's a predominance of it earlier rather than later.

How's that for moderate?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:18pm
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Psst--he lives in Bali for crying out loud; do you really think he needs any encouragement?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:56pm
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True, there's hardly any excuse for that :)

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:11pm
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Dead on

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:48am
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1st March 1969, Fillmore West.

Cryptical Envelopment> The Other One> Cryptical Envelopment

(and straight on through New Potato Caboose> Doin' That Rag> Cosmic Charlie).

The American Seven Samurai at full tilt. Seriously, does it ever get better than this?

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Poster: utopian Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:27am
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Yes
11-2-79!!!
11-25-79 my favorite jack straw.
1-13-80
9-2-83

how about a good 'hey pockey way?'

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:20am
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Yikes, that is formidable, but I will not concede defeat because.... well because nobody can even remember if that was the whole set list I bet. Yea that the ticket..

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:29am
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Of course not! Well, maybe for a brief shining moment or three in 70 or 71, but I doubt it extends too far beyond...

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:04am
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Good call Rob. Few if any shows have broken as fast from the gate as 3/1/69.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:00pm
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I'm not really an era purist, but I don't think that Bertha opener comes close to this one:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1982-04-18.beyerm160.unknown.andrewf.82487.sbeok.flac16

I have great affection for the later Jerry, but I'd rather listen to him when his voice was strong and vibrant, not gravely.

Test me, test me, test me ....

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:30pm
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nice, I couldn't agree more. You'll just love Donna in this 76 show too >
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1976-06-26.mtx.seamons.95355.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 26, 2010 6:25am
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Thanks. That has a lovely, rich Sugaree.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:28pm
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this has a sweet opener >> http://www.archive.org/details/gd80-06-21.sbd.samaritano.27448.sbeok.flacf

and one of the best first sets ever

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:21pm
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Another Monster, thanks for all of these fast openers everyone. It's given me a lot to check out in the near future.
Cheers

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:44pm
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Can't argue with a first set Billy Kreutzmann For President!!!

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 26, 2010 11:40am
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OOOPS... wrong dude ?

IMG_6582-1.jpg

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 26, 2010 8:19am
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However, although I don't totally understand all the Donna bashing, I think she's a problem on the Saint Stephen here (and I'm pretty sure the Saint Stephen purists will agree) :)

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:28am
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The Castro Spectator gave you an 81.69 rating due to your early evening snoring and smell ass sounds.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:38am
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My smell ass sounds are not to be sniffed at let me tell you.

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:16pm
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that's what they say in the Casto as well...

smellyass.jpg

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:19pm
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Rob, I gotta say you never looked better!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:07am
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I don't know how it can be "era posturing" to simply state a strong preference for one era over another. Seems to me the real issue is that there are some fairly thin-skinned 80s and 90s fans who get all riled up when someone rags on post Keith-era Dead (and I say that as someone who saw all of my shows between 1983 and 1991).

While debates over the merits of the 80s will probably rage on forever, the overwhelimg consensus seems to be that by 1992 this was CLEARLY a band on its last legs (the members of the Dead themselves being members of that consensus).

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:41am
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Well I do agree about after 92 things get even more rougher and by 95 are unbearable. I'm not sure about the consensus even by the band. Get a load of this recent article http://www.syracusenewtimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&;task=view&id=3982&Itemid=147 where Bobby says to this question
Q

There were many elemental changes in the sound of the Dead from the “acid test” days to the American Beauty/Workingman’s Dead era right through to the 1990s. Is there a time in the band’s evolution that holds a more personal sentiment for you?

A

Well, the late days, the last two or three years were good ones. After Jerry came through his coma and came out in really good shape, the band was just on all cylinders at that time."

Go figure

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:52am
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What an odd quote. Did Jerry have a coma in '92 that i missed? Clearly there were some highlights in '87-90 which is what I assume he is talking about.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:28pm
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I know that JGB 10/31/92 was a "comeback" show for Jerry. He had taken time off for illness. However, I don't believe he went for coma treatment.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:59am
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during and after 92 his guitar work seemed to be in a coma and remained there


(yeah, yeah, yeah - i know there are some exceptions, but for the most part....)

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Feb 26, 2010 8:44am
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I think Bob is a little confused here. Sounds like he is recalling the last gasps of vitality that occured 88-90. If that's the case then I agree to a point- while I certainly don't think they were "firing on all cylinders" (that stopped around '77), as a whole those years probabably hold up better than any since maybe '80 or '81. If he is truly refering to 1993-95 then I think senility is setting in!

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 26, 2010 9:53pm
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Well if you ask me they had some moments of brilliance in 87 & 88 but overall they were not great years. However, sometime during the spring of 89 they start to take off and by summer 89 they are firing on all cylinders albeit not the Ferrari of yesteryear's. They continue this ride with some turbulence but an overall level of consistence until around the time of Bill Grahams death in late 91. Around this point the wheels start to come off again and it's downhill to the finish.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:59am
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Do recall that the Bob we knew and loved, is something altogether sterioidally modified these days...I have heard that he likes the pics of himself on the HHtFool album, not to mention the shorts...and, if in fact he feels he can still sing, well--there you go...I can idolize them, but as for objective analysis of their own output, not sure one would be that interested in what he has to say. Now, that sounds awful re-reading it, because I actually do find what he says intriguing--just not in a "vote" on quality of output kinda fashion if that makes sense. I can recall thinking at age 40, in games in which we old farts beat the young HS team players (bball), I woulda said we were "firing on all cylinders" but acknowledged that I was running on a 4 rather than my original V-8 at that time and place.

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Feb 25, 2010 3:15pm
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75-03-23
blues 4 allah >... was a great and unique opener

73-11-11
triple dose of 100% pure rock n roll:
promised land
bertha
greatest story

and of course, 68-06-14 feedback >...

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:08pm
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Yea that 11-11-73 show is what I'm looking for. Now that's a set of hard hitting rockers to open the show. Thanks

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:28am
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For a 'late era' that is certainly a solid opener

I've always liked this opener
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-03-09.nak700.glassberg.motb.82372.sbeok.flac16

and one of my faves continues to be the Miss Half-Step > Franklin's from 11/2/79

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Poster: pequastogy Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:44am
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3-9-81 IS SMOKING THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH. I AGREE

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:49am
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I second that emoticon :) as you are no doubt sick of hearing, it's my very favorite show.

My favorite show SHOULD be one of the late 73's that are blissfully free of caterwauling, but I was not at any of those!

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Poster: Solo Head Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:01am
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http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-07-19.dsbd.garcia420.2177.sbeok.shnf

Check this JS out!

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:19am
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Excellent!

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:23am
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Another of its kind >

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1989-07-02.fob.thomson.motb.81459.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:37am
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Now that's what I'm talking about. I know that show and like the song selection better because the jams are longer and more interesting but I'm not sure if it has the blistering mind popping intensity of the Bertha>Jack opener but you are right too with that one. Good choice.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 25, 2010 1:52pm
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Best show opener:
6-14-68 Feedback>Eleven>St Stephen.

If they'd opened any '90s show with that, people would've been fainting in the aisles....

But picking something from '68 is unfair. How about a couple honorable mentions from a couple years later:
2-8-70 Smokestack Lightning
5-6-70 Dancing in the Streets

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 3:37pm
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I couldn't agree more! I think I've even said it too, but I know we'll have to beat GoP with a stick when he sees this cause he's gonna insist it was not the opener...but, I'd like to think it was! At least of the second set or however it used to work there at FEast...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 25, 2010 4:49pm
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True, there's a couple issues -

One, at that time at the Fillmore East, the Dead did have to do two separate SHOWS (not sets), so this was a show in its own right, even if it was the late show.

Two, GoP did say that a Dark Star preceded this feedback.... On the other hand, this was over 40 years ago, and memories (like tapes) can go astray....
The show is already an hour as is, so it seems complete time-wise; and if they did open with a Dark Star>feedback, that would make it an even BETTER opener!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 26, 2010 12:23pm
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Yes, shows, not sets. The building was cleared between shows.

My memory is clear. They were playing D.S. (the 15 minute version), but the audience didn't "get it" (we'd never heard D.S.) and were sending bad vibes to the stage. The band quieted down to a whisper to ge everyone's attention. Huh? They stopped? Then the boys shredded as if to say, "take that!"

The feedback energized the audience and things just kept getting better from thre.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:13am
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"Moderation in temper is always a virture, but moderation in principle is always a vice"

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:23am
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Well said, and I believe my query is both principled and virtuous.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:27am
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Ha! Th Paine would love it! I think...

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:31am
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Maybe, was he a Deadhead ;}

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:44am
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You are not trolling!

And I am not trolling when I declare my opinion that the Grateful Dead sucked after 1977.

But your challange is absurd because nothing that came after 1979 is even comparable to the music from the early years as far as creativity and execution is concerned. And all the late period zealots will never admit how much better the jamming was during 1967-1974 because they cant hear the jams!

Best opener ever?

Just about every one performed before 1980...

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:57pm
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" But your challange is absurd because nothing that came after 1979 is even comparable to the music from the early years as far as creativity music from the early years as far as creativity and execution is concerned. And all the late and execution is concerned." Cliff you are making a comparison right here on something you say cannot be compared. I'm sorry that you choose to be so close minded because you definitely are missing out. I agree that the Band was better on a more consistent basis in the early years as compared to the later years as there were a lot more variables later on. Their repertoire is one variable to be looked at ....less songs in the early days played a lot more frequently on a regular basis is another.... when the grateful dead was on they were on in every year they played.....

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:08am
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You see Cliff that is where our opinions and taste differ. Why, just today I listened to 6-23-90 right next to 12-31-69 and loved and disliked parts of them both so go figure. I guess I must be some kind of mutant.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Feb 25, 2010 12:58pm
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Cliff, It's pretty clear that there where less great shows after 77 percentage wise. But it's foolish to think there where NO standout performances in the later years.

I appreciate when folks point out "great" 80 and 90's shows. They are hard to find. Heck anybody can post the top 10, 72 73 or 77 shows. In 77 for example you can play just about any show and be rocked... NOT so in the 80 or 90, it helps to have a guide... somebody that can find the gold nuggets...they are out there!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 25, 2010 1:07pm
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I agree with your comments, however your comments point to why it would highly unlikely that you would ever find the "best" of something after '77 because the odds are against you. It comes down to the math. Unless of course you are looking for the best Samba in the Rain.

I just don't think some of the points being made here are what you said. There are plenty of people who do think that the shows in the '80s are of equal or better quality than those of the '70s or '60s and therefore it should be just as easy to find "the best" of something in any era. I think that is what barpnsong is arguing. He is obviously entitled to his opinion and he also pointed out that he did this more for fun than other other reason.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 3:40pm
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Oh yeah--my era has some real losers for sure...I am the first to admit it...but, the overall % is what does it for me in the energy department. Song writing too...

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Poster: billydlions Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:00am
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I really have no idea why the posters here are so biased towards the early stuff when the people who post reviews seem to be biased for the 80's/90's. How come these people dont comment more here? Do the regulars scare them away (Rob, Cliff, WT?) I'd like to think that I'm one of the moderate ones around here as I generally like all GD from 1968-1990, although I just dont like Jerry's thin sound in the Vince/Bruce years although I certainly enjoyed the shows I attended in the early 90's.

I've given much thought to the early years vs later years debate that goes on around here and one difference that strikes me the most is how the GD seemed to be more of a group back in the early years (say 68-77) and more of an individual (Jerry based) in the mid years- say 1978-1986. That probably explains why I love the JGB so much- it's just jerry jamming, which to me sums up the early 80's. Sure Bob was screaming on his songs, but I have always been very liberal with selecting the best 80 minutes of a show to burn, therefore deleting Rooster, cowboy tunes, etc.

I'll continue to be a strong advocate for 1979-1982, with some 1983 and some 1984. There are some incredible shows, both GD and JGB that I'll never get tired listening to. Smacked and coked out Jerry give me as much enjoyment as jazzy ensemble Jerry do.

As for shows starting out red hot, how about 3-25-85? The Jack Straw-Sugaree opener is on fire. I also love the show the previous year at Cal Expo, 8-6-89.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1989-08-06.sbd.miller.89966.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:19am
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Yeah BD--we have been talking about that for a while huh; the aspect of the diff between "us" and the "rev's"...interesting. Does that mean joby is one of "you"? Not that you are one of the rev's per se, but if we can make certain he's not with "us" ("me"), I'd be a lot happier!

I do say a lot of things in jest, and imply a lot more, but I really have no issue whatsoever with folks liking the latter yrs, etc. In fact, I have come to realize that there can be something really compelling about an overwt, broken down guitar player on his last legs inspiring someone to yell out the words so he doesn't forget them while thinking about his next hit during space...

Seriously--I mean that in a good way; I can see it being good.

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Feb 26, 2010 6:53am
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"Yeah BD--we have been talking about that for a while huh; the aspect of the diff between "us" and the "rev's"...interesting. Does that mean joby is one of "you"? Not that you are one of the rev's per se, but if we can make certain he's not with "us" ("me"), I'd be a lot happier!"

Huh? Can you explain this please, I don't get it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 26, 2010 8:48am
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Sorry, inside joke: BD, poster above, noted that "we" (folks that post at this forum) are different from "them" (folks that post only reviews at this forum). There is one reviewer, "jboy" for short, that has posted amusing reviewers; in the draft lottery, I said BD could have em...that's all.

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Feb 26, 2010 9:17am
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"In fact, I have come to realize that there can be something really compelling about an overwt, broken down guitar player on his last legs inspiring someone to yell out the words so he doesn't forget them while thinking about his next hit during space..."

I believe Jerry had teleprompters displaying the lyrics by the time you are talking about. I think around then more people would yell, scream, and get excited whenever Jerry showed flashes of his former genius and came out of his self imposed stupor long enough to invoke some of the inspirational wonder he could so routinely display ten to fifteen years prior.

That said, I have mined 1989 and Brent era 1990 for pretty much all they're worth from these archives, and I genuinely find much more to be excited about than I find the stinkers of the following years or the several years prior to that. I guess I'd consider those shows to be my favorites because they bring to mind all the memories of my times seeing the Dead when I myself was at the peak of my abilities. Putting on a show I attended, remembering who I was there with, what I did before, during, and after the concert, is totally unique and brings so much more to the listening experience. It also makes it harder to divorce myself from the actual sounds that are offered. It matters much less to me if Jerry was a little off key or blew a lead here and there if at the same time I have a memory of putting my arms around my little waifish deadhead girlfriend in the crowd during that tune. I guess that's a diluted experience when compared to the purity of listening to a piece of music purely for its technical merits, but where then is the joy in that? I think the art of this music is supposed to make you feel and experience, and it can lose something essential when examined too closely for the best this or greatest that.

There's still so much to discover, though. It's why I can't really commit to a series of years or an era or whatever as my favorite. I just recently for the first time heard the full acoustic set of the 5-1-70 show with the totally unique versions of Mama Tried and Me & My Uncle, and was once again blown away that I've been listening to this band for almost thirty years now and still can find so much amazing "new to me" stuff to cream over.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 26, 2010 9:52am
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Yeah, I can understand that compelling aspect of the show, and it sounds like you don't go around giving everyone you attended an automatic 5 stars!, so we got no issues! I do have the exact same feeling for the two shows I am always talking to JOTS and BD about here: 6-17 and 9-28 75, for exactly the reasons you outline...I have to admit I still don't listen to them though, but I think of them in the same way. I do have a nice recording of the Jun show, and will put on the CFingers and PegO every once in a while.

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Feb 26, 2010 9:15am
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Oh :) I understand now, transposed letters made me think you were calling me out for some reason or another. I had images of being surrounded by freaks like that old Tod Browning movie, "one of us...one of us...one of us..."

This post was modified by Jobygoob on 2010-02-26 17:15:09

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 26, 2010 9:31am
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What's even funnier is you scared me: I thought you were "jboy" with a slightly diff but eerily similar name...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:42am
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You know me, I always have love for 79 though some of 84. After that it gets really spotty. Some later shows I do really like, but only a rare few. My favorite "eras" though tend to fluctuate. Like now for instance I find myself entrenched in 74. Next month might be 68, who knows? You gotta love getting up each morning, getting in the car, plugging the iPod into the car stereo and saying "What's it gonna be today?". It's like Christmas every day.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:14am
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"entrenched"

Classic.

I like most of the years. My least faves are 93, 94, 95, 84 and 87.

on 12/13/69 they opened with the hilarious combo of Casey Jones>Hard to Handle>Black Peter>Mama Tried........poor mama.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:38am
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I have trouble with those year too, though I find '93 to be a cut above 94-95. The only real drawback in '93 is Jerry's often inappropriate use of the clear tone. On some songs it really seemed to work, but it took the crunch out of others. Either way, the musicianship was far better in 93 than it was in 92 and better than it would be in 94-95. I'm also warming up a little more to '84 these days. You need to know what to look for, but there are some diamonds in there.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Challenge

Any year that can produce Augusta's Dew has got to have something going for it.

It is true that if you look hard enough, 84 does have some fine shows to be had.

To each his own though. As always, the pretentious effluvium that spews from my oral cavity on a regular basis is only personal opinion based on my own likes and dislikes.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Challenge

"On some songs it really seemed to work, but it took the crunch out of others."

Bingo on 93 Jerry. Saw the Autzen stadium shows, which many heads rave over. There was just something missing.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Challenge

Well I will always remember this opening sequence.

You need to listen to the Sargent Peppers first for the twenty years ago today portion then start this recording and you might get a feel for the HIGH energy at the Greeks this night.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1985-06-14.sony220t.keshavan.miller.105542.flac16

Even though the first set split in two for technical issues the "Keep on Growing" more than made up for the delay.

This Dancin is great for one of the later versions.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Challenge

Okay, I gave yours a listen and my take is that its a fun opening to a show. The JS sounded pretty typical for late 80s/90 with Phil bombs a plenty. Now you give this one a try. It starts with an elementary dance number, foxtrot to be precise that is also a ladies choice and ends with the need for a break for the musicians to dry off their hands.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-10-12.sbd.miller.86759.sbeok.flac16

1t01 - Introduction
d1t02 - Dark Star ->
d1t03 - Saint Stephen ->
d1t04 - The Eleven ->
d1t05 - Death Don't Have No Mercy

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Challenge

For me it's the combo 1-2 punch of Bertha-Jack Straw that does it for me but that 68 show is yet another excellent example of why this kind of thing is like apples and oranges and why a challenge like this is just for fun.
I guess some people just like apples more than oranges and some people like oranges more than apples and some people just can't decide which they like more but are happy to feast on both. Celebrate diversity I say.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Challenge

Well now, I think you might very well have just laid down a 68 straight on my 69 full house.

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